| ****This document
is a work in progress. Information is
always being compiled, as families travel, then
offer tips and information on what worked best
for them. Please bear in mind that this
information is subject to change. Let us
know if you have any additional suggestions or
comments about these issues.
Please
read this document carefully, and take this with
you when you travel to Kazakhstan. It will
serve you well in your preparations and travels.
Revised December 2006
Adopting from Kazakhstan/Traveling
to Kazakhstan
Many
adoptions have been successfully completed from
the Country of Kazakhstan. The process
changes a lot, and flexibility with changing
requirements will serve you well. To adopt
a child, your process includes:
ˇ
Obtaining an approved home study with a licensed
agency
ˇ
Applying/receiving approval
ˇ
Obtaining/completing the documents required for
your dossier
Once
your dossier has been sent to us in full and is
complete, your documents will be sent through an
authentication process (apostilling)
which is required by the Kazakhstani government.
You take care of the apostilling of your
documents. Next step, the documents go to a
translator, who must be, and is on the approved
list of translators designated by the Consulate
of Kazakhstan. The final step of the
process on this side of the ocean
ends with the documents being processed/approved
by the Consulate of Kazakhstan here in the
country. The Consulates timeline is
two months (60 days). Then the dossier is
immediately sent via international courier to our
Kazakhstani coordinator -- Marina. She
submits the dossier to the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs in Astana, Kazakhstan. (Astana is
an all-day trip by car from Karaganda.) The
dossier will be approved by both the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Education.
Typically, these offices should take 3-8 weeks
per office to process (but in reality most of the
cases were much longer). Once these
approvals have been obtained, the dossier will be
brought back from Astana by Marinas staff.
Then you will start discussing the referral you
may receive. If you do not like the child
she will refer to you, you may wait for another
child. The only thing you need to remember
that the orphanage is not the shop of the healthy
babies, but the place where orphans (abandoned
kids) live and the abandoned kids will have the
premature story and the underweight and famous
Russian diagnose Prenatal encelopathy.
You need to contact the Russian doctor living in
your area and your agency to discus the diagnose
of the child. Remember that this diagnose
doesnt coincide with any European or
American diagnosis.
The
usual cases when the diagnose is put to the child:
1.
Prematurely born.
2.
Mother is younger than 18.
3.
Mother is older than 30.
4.
The small weight (less than 2 kg) and the big
weight (more than 4 kg)
5.
The child did not cry at once.
6.
The child was born at home.
7.
Mother did not go to the doctor during the
pregnancy.
After
you accept the child, Marina will be able to
obtain a letter of invitation FROM LOCAL
EDUCATION DEPARTMENT for you to travel to Kazakhstan,
which is usually about a 2-week process.
Here
is Marinas address:
Kazakhstan,
Karaganda
470071
STEPNOY
1-40-54
Turapina
M.
(Tel:
3212-75-03-80)
The Visa Process
You
will need a Kazakh adoption visa for the trip.
NOTE: You will need to do this after your
dossier has gone to Kazakhstan.
The
visa process begins after your dossier is
released from the Ministry of Education. Marina
then obtains the letter of invitation, and
confirmation number from the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs in Astana. The process of
obtaining the letter of invitation is totally out
of our hands we cannot control how long it
takes. When Marina gets the invitation
letter, it will be emailed to you. While
waiting for your invitation letter, its
advisable to go ahead and download the Kazakhstan
adoption visa application, complete it as much as
you can, along with a return Fed Ex or UPS label
for her to send it back to you with your visa; just
keep in mind that it cannot be issued until you
submit the invitation letter with confirmation
number. When the Ministry gives Marina
a copy of the invitation letter, a telex copy
should be simultaneously cabled to the Embassy of
Kazakhstan .The letter comes first, then usually
7 working days later, a confirmation number comes.
The Embassy must have both items before they will
issue your visa. This is an Adoption
Invitation. Tourist invitations
cannot be used by adopting parents for your first
trip to Kazakhstan. Friends or relatives
accompanying you can travel on a tourist visa.
Length of tourist visas varies, and they are not
extendable in-country. Adoption visas are
extendable within Kazakhstan. If your child
travels with you, he or she should be included in
your adoption travel visa, so please notify us of
your intentions with advance notice, so the
proper adoption invitation can be secured by Marina.
We will need a copy of your childs passport.
Traveling
You
will enter Kazakhstan via the city of Almaty or
directly to Karaganda (Airastana Company). At
that time, youll purchase tickets for your
flight to Karaganda. You need to be aware
that some times during the winter months, planes
to Karaganda are grounded due to inclement
weather. If inclement weather grounds the
flight, you will need to travel via train. The
plane ticket is around150 $. The sleeping
bed train ticket between 40$ and 100 $(depends on
the type of the train). Our Driver in
Almaty will help you with your plane or train
ticket purchases. The return ticket from Karaganda
to Almaty should only be purchased in Karaganda.
It is much easier to purchase the ticket in Karaganda
when you know the exact date of departure, than
it is to change the date on an existing ticket.
Our
Driver will pick you up at the airport (he holds
a sign that says Marina), help you
buy your tickets to Almaty, get you settled in an
apartment or hotel (if youre overnighting),
take you sightseeing if theres time, and in
general, take care of you while youre in
Almaty. The name Marina is
used to protect your identity from independent or
unlicensed drivers. If anyone approaches
you, asking if your name is Marina,
ignore them. Marina will meet you at the
airport or train station in Karaganda.
If
you are an experienced traveler, you can stay
overnight in the airport hotel(5 minutes of
walking to the left from the airport entrance)
and change the money yourself and buy the ticket
for the flight to Karaganda yourselves without
the help of the driver.
The
driver service in Almaty is meeting in the
airport 4200 tenge plus seeing off 4200 tenge.
Any extra driving around the city will be 1500
tenge per hour. The trip to the mountains
will be at different price and it is better to
ask the driver before your trip how much
it will be.
The
exchange office and the booking
office are on the second floor of the airport.
By
the way, once you arrive in Karaganda, Marina
will take your passport briefly, to register your
presence in the city. This is required.
Please dont worry; shell return your
passport in a day or two. Your registration
is covered by your adoption fee; if any friends
or relatives travel with you, they will be
responsible for the registration fee (about 3,300
tenge).
Once
you are settled in Karaganda, you will need to
visit your childs orphanage. This is
an important part of your visit in Kazakhstan.
You will see where your child has lived and spent
their time, who their friends are, who their
caregivers have been, where they have played, and
so forth.
Marina
has asked us to explain to parents who travel
that it is a tradition in Kazakhstan that, just
as a guest usually brings a token gift to a host,
the orphanage staff is well-pleased when they see
parents come to the orphanage with a token gift
for the children. Toys, pampers... It
is also appropriate to bring a nice gift for the
orphanage director, doctors and gifts for your
childrens caregivers. These are
usually ladies, and Marina suggests make-up, gold
jewelry (many times it is 70% off at
K-mart) or nice French perfume for the director
to give to them during the farewell party, AFTER
the court. For the farewell party, (2-3
days before you leave for the embassy) you
will need to buy the cake and a bottle of wine or
champagne to the caregivers in the group and the
same to the doctors. There are 6 caregivers
in the group and 7 nurses and doctors in the
orphanage. It is usually customary to bring
the flowers( maybe in pots) to the main doctor
and to the doctor, who treated your child.
Also
you will work with the lawyer (man ),social
worker (lady). There are several referrals
to understand what will be appreciated here.
Usually, go to WALMART and ask them what yellow
gold stuff they have on sale. Sometimes on
20-30 $ you can buy nice pendant, earrings,
bracelets, etc.
For
the caregivers go to "dollar tree" or
"99 cents" and buy the perfume, creams
for face. It is very important that it
should be made in USA (Europe)-NOT IN CHINA!!!
In Walmart, they have very beautiful sets - body
lotion, body mist and shower gel of the same
aroma. It is around 7-9 $ per set.
You
may also be asked to go to various offices and
government buildings in Kazakhstan. Please
remember that Kazakhstan is a rich and beautiful
country, with deeply held values and traditions.
Sometimes the surroundings where these very
important legal procedures are taking place may
not seem very imposing. Never forget that
people of accomplishment and stature are working
here, and should be treated with respect. A
quiet and respectful demeanor while in any
government or official office is important.
While casual clothes are acceptable most all of
the time, a nice shirt/tie/khakis or dockers for
fathers and dress or pantsuit for mothers would
be appropriate for court. All of the
apartments in Karaganda have washers. Do
not over pack. Trust us when we say that
you will wear the same outfit most of the time!
The luggage limit for the local flight (Almaty to
Karaganda) is 20 kg per person (44 pounds), not
per suitcase. The overage fee is about $2,50
per kg. (1 kg = 2.2 pounds). You will
want to check with your travel agent for overages
for the international portion of your flight.
You
will exit the country via Almaty. The
reason is that you have to file the immigrant
visa form at the Embassy on behalf of your child
to obtain the visa for him/her. Marina and
her staff will help you with other documents that
you will need to give to the Embassy. Be
sure to take copies of your passports with you. The
Embassy will request one, and its always a
good idea when traveling overseas to have extra
copies, just in case.
In
the past, escorting has been allowed in Kazakhstan.
Now, however, parents need to plan to either stay
(one parent) for the entire time in Karaganda,
and bring your child home (about seven weeks).
Or, more frequently, one parent just plans for a
quick trip back to Almaty to pick up your child
at the end of the process. Marina and her
staff can complete the entire process for you, as
long as you have made your visit to the Embassy
on the way out of Kazakhstan to file the application.
Therefore, you can fly into Almaty, and meet the
staff with your child, then leave right away.
We do recommend that you overnight in Almaty,
because its such a long trip.
The Bonding Period in Kazakhstan
According
to Kazakhstani law, both parents must be present
for the 2-week bonding period prior to the court
hearing. The bonding period begins the
first working day after your arrival in Karaganda.
The decision regarding the new name of the child
must be made prior to travel, as you will be
asked at this time to give the new name.
During
the bonding period, the established custom is for
the parents to visit in the orphanage every day.
The baby orphanage will require 2 visits every
day. Transportation to the orphanage will
be organized by Marina, but the driving fee is
not included into the adoption fee and may be
around 15 $ (2000 tenge) per day. Each
family will be assigned a university student
studying and well-versed in English, French or
Spanish. These students are a part of Marinas
organization and their help will be free of
charge to you for all adoption-related work, and
at a nominal hourly charge (405 tenge) for
personal use. They will be your primary
contact for daily entertainment, shopping, and
translation between you and your child. Marina
will be working hard, managing the entire program
and the specific cases of the families who are in
Kazakhstan. She will spend as much time as
possible with each family, but her time is much
better spent doing those difficult and delicate
tasks necessary to complete your adoption. Your
student will be a great resource for you. Please
feel free to take full advantage of her services.
At the end of your bonding
period, a standard court date will be issued
on 22-26 days after your arrival.
TRAVEL
COSTS: Following are costs you
will incur while in Kazakhstan:
In Karaganda:
**You
will owe 1 206 000 tenge per baby girl and 1 072
000 tenge per baby boy for adoption fees
for one child to Marina, our Coordinator in Kazakhstan.
The rate of the dollar is between 118- 134 tenge
per dollar. The rate of the dollar is
constantly changing up and down, so we attached
the fee to tenge.
The
fee is valid until December 2006.
With
the raising fees for the passport and gas,
lowering the rate of the Euro and dollar and
other unexpected delays, please expect the
raising of the fee .
You
can take this money in cash or American
Express Travelers Checks (this is the
preferred method).
You
will go to the bank and get them cashed and pay
to Marina. Or you may send it via Western
Union before you travel. If you take
Travelers Checks, you will need some cash to get
you to Karaganda. Regardless of how much
cash you carry, be sure that all cash is clean,
newer bills, with no stains, rips/tears, or
writing on them. Visa card is accepted
some places, and we have tried to list the ones
we know. For getting cash from ATM machines
you must know the pin code!! If you
take Travelers Checks, the Kazakh offices will
give you newer bills, so the problem of clean
bills will be solved for you.
1.
Driving in Karaganda - 900 tenge for an hour, at
the drivers discretion. This is
for any driving not related to your adoption (shopping,
aqua park, theater, etc.)
2.
Staying with host family 4000
tenge per person (includes bed + all food +
washer + computer), but after you take your child
from orphanage, it is an extra 3000 tenge/day/baby.
Marina prefers for families to stay in her
apartment complex. There are vacant
apartments, , etc., all close to Marinas
apartment. All apartments have internet
access, but you must pay for the internet time
yourself. The detergent for your personal
belongings is also on your responsibility.
3.
Plane tickets from/to Almaty-Karaganda: around
$150, one-way.
4.
Registration of the Child in the Ministry of
Foreign Affairs in Astana 6700 tenge
per child for the registration, plus 100 $ for
the trip to Astana. If multiple children
are registered in the same trip, then the cost of
the trip can be split between families. Timing
is crucial, and we cannot delay registration
waiting for a subsequent family. There may
be trips made each day. Registrations are
accepted in Astana 9 am to noon Monday, Tuesday,
Thursday and Friday. None are accepted on
Wednesday.
5.
For those countries whose law demands the
legalization of the adoption papers-the fee for
the legalization will not be included into the
adoption fee and must be paid extra. Also
the driving for the registration in Astana will
be 100 Euro as the legalization of
the court is done in Astana also together
with the registration and it is the extra driving.
6.
Some Hints:
7.
There is a big stuff working for you in Karaganda:
several cooks, maids, drivers, secretary, book-
keeper. They will be pleased if you give
them some tokens of your gratitude.
In
Almaty:
1.
Upon your initial arrival in Almaty, the services
(2 transfers) provided to you by the Staff Driver
will be 8400 tenge , paid directly to the
driver.
2.
The driver will help you to buy the tickets to Karaganda
and driving around the city Almaty will be
1500 tenge per hour.
3.
If you decide to remain in Karaganda for the 15-day
period of appeal AFTER to bring your child home
yourself, the Staff Driver will meet you and your
child at the airport upon your return from Karaganda,
and provide all transportation required to secure
the visa (medical exam and visa interview at the
USA Consulate). Around 19 200 tenge(airport
included).
4.
For USA citizens-Meanwhile, a member of Marinas
staff will be assisting in the various steps
required to secure the medical exam and apply and
secure the visa. For USA citizen the
process of receiving the immigration visa will
take 2 days and for the kids older than 12
years old-3 days.
5.
For European citizen the visa is issued within 2-3
days.
6.
The Canadians will have to fly to Moscowto
receive their visas.
Most
families choose the option of returning home
immediately after the court hearing. One
parent then returns to Kazakhstan to escort their
child home personally. Marina can have
everything done, so that the parent needs only
fly into Almaty and pick up the child. In
that case the escort fee will be 400 $-that
includes escorting the child into Almaty.
Please be prepared to pay this
money to Marina prior to your departure from Karaganda,
if you want this service.
Steps in the Court Process
What
Happens While Im In Karaganda?
When
you arrive in Kazakhstan to adopt your child,
there are several steps involved in the process.
This is a listing of those steps, as we know them
today. (These time frames are
approximate. When dealing with government
officials in another country, it is difficult to
say exactly how long things will take, and at
that point, it is beyond our control.) When
you travel there, you will understand much better
how this is true. You can expect your
travel time to be anywhere from 3 weeks (if you
return after court) to 7 + weeks.
1.
Go to local (Karaganda) Department of Education
and get letter of visiting permission
for you. You need this letter in order to
get the Permission to Adopt. (1 day) Marina
is usually able to secure this on the day of your
arrival.
2.
Marina will take the letter to Ministry of
Education in Astana -- get Permission To
Adopt document. (1 day) Actually,
this occurs near the end of your bonding period.
If there are any doubts or concerns about
finalizing this adoption, you need to speak of it
before Marina secures this letter. If there
is serious consideration being given to refusing
the adoption, you must contact Marina of the
problem. You are certainly free to refuse
to finalize an adoption, but to avoid great
problems for everyone, we ask that this decision
be made at least three days prior to the court
hearing.
3.
Two-week bonding period you
spend time daily with your child. This
begins the first business day after your arrival
in Karaganda, and lasts for 14 calendar days.
4.
As soon as the decision to adopt has been made (usually
five days after the bonding period has begun), a
trip will be made to the attorneys office
to sign the application for the court. This
will begin the adoption process and secure the
quickest possible court date. Again, it is
very important not to sign this document prior to
your final decision. Be aware, however,
that it takes approximately 5-7 days to secure a
court date, and delaying this step will delay the
court date.
5.
Visiting the notary to sign several local powers
of attorney to several persons from Marinas
stuff.
6.
Court Hearing -- within 7-9 business days from
the end of the bonding period .
TOTAL BEFORE THE COURT 21-26 days.
AT THIS POINT AFTER THE COURT,
ONE OR BOTH PARENTS MAY LEAVE, IF NECESSARY
8.
AFTER THE COURT-15-day Appeal Period
15 calendar days, ending the first
business day after the 15th day of
appeal.
9.
Receive Court Order usually received the
morning of the day following the 15th
day of the appeal.
10.
Apply for new birth certificate (usually given
within next 1-2 business days).
11.
Apply for Certificate of Adoption (usually given
within next 1 business day).
12.
Go to local (Karaganda) police station; apply for
passport.
13.
Marina sends staff to Astana to pick up passport
and return with it to Karaganda (usually given
within next 2-4 days). This can be
delayed by severe weather, or by frequent
interruptions in the machinery of that office.
14.
Apply for Exit Visa, done in Karaganda, stamped
into childs passport (next 2 days).
15.
Go again to Astana, to register the childs
adoption. This must be done before the
child can
leave Kazakhstan (1-3 days), but only after
the exit visa has been stamped into childs
passport.
TOTAL AFTER THE COURT 21-26 days.
NONE OF
THESE STEPS CAN BE DONE WITHIN the appeal period
and all these steps can be done only in
consequence.
Also you
can not apply to the embassy to get the
immigration visa within the appeal period as you
have no legal base(court decision) for that.
So 21-26 days before the court and 21-26
days after the court.
PLEASE, do
not tell Marina that the kids left at home
are crying, the boss is angry, the dogs are
barking, the house is falling into pieces, so
thats why you want the adoption to be done
specially for you in 10 days.
As you can
understand, we hear it quite often and it doesnt
help.(ALAS!)
The
international adoption is not fast food service.
This was
your decision to adopt the child , so you must
respect the rules
Of the
country, where you want to do the adoption.
We are
working very hard to make your adoption as smooth
as possible, but still there exists some
situations that we can not predict and can not
influence. Also keep in mind that the court
is appointing the court date and the judge is
making the decision, not me and we can not
dictate the judge when and how to do the case.
Things
to Do/See While in Kazakhstan
In Karaganda
Local
History Museum ticket $3/person. Videoing
is allowed only if you request permission and pay
a $5 fee.
Indoor
Aqua park two options. The first
requires no reservation and you can go just for
swimming. The ticket per person is $2/hour.
The second option is to book a room equipped with
a sauna, jacuzzi, couch, and use of the common
swimming pool. Fee varies from $10-15/hour
(for 8 people), depending on time of day and
availability.
Outdoor
AquaLand ticket prices are comparable to
above.
Fantasy
Park similar to our Chucky Cheese. Has
outdoor carousel and indoor games and food.
Open from 2 pm in the summer, and from 4 pm in
the winter.
City
Park has carousels, lake, walking paths,
etc.
Aladdin
Café childrens theme restaurant,
has childrens characters (monkeys, etc.),
pizza, very reasonably-priced food. A
favorite with the kids.
Bowling
Center ticket 800 Tenge/person/hour.
Zoom
shopping mall very large. On the
first floor there is a good souvenir shop which
sells traditional Kazakh outfits; special orders
can be filled usually within 3-4 days. Behind
the Zoom is a large inside clothing bazaar, with
comparably inexpensive clothing. Also there
is a Green Bazaar, with cheaper
prices, but not as good quality of merchandise.
It is advised to go with your university student
when you go shopping. Most of what youll
need for your child, or gifts for the caregivers
can be purchased at Zoom or at these bazaars.
The
Circus this is a traveling circus, so not
always available.
Symphony
Theatre ticket depends on the artist,
usually between $8-20.
Opera
performances usually every weekend,
tickets between $8-15.
Puppet
Show every Sunday 12 noon; $1/ticket.
Karaganda
State University free of charge; informal
visit with English classes at the university
level
Asia
Shop Great souvenir source for traditional
Kazakh souvenirs
Art
Galleries One is operated by the
government and is for display only; the other has
pieces of art for sale.
Russian
Orthodox Church (and many other churches) are
open for visitation. For the Russian
Orthodox service, ladies must wear a dress or
skirt, and have a head covering. Services
are at 9 am and 4 pm daily.
In
Almaty
Museum
of History -- $3/person
Two
Art Museums fee is comparable to above
19th
Century Russian Orthodox Cathedral (Main
Cathedral of Kazakhstan) again in
operation. Very nice park surrounds this
church with monuments, etc.
Main
Square contains governmental buildings and
Monument to Freedom (Golden Soldier)
Medeo
mountain top ice skating rink (outdoor).
A large number of world records have been set on
this rink. If you wish to see this, and
time permits, this is included in the fee you
have paid for your Almaty package.
Chimbulak
-- The mountains above Medeo. You get to
Chimbulak by car, weather permitting, then you
can take ski lifts (chair lifts) up to a higher
mountain range. Fees begin at 300 Tenge/person
for the ski lifts. At the highest point,
you would find yourself above the clouds. If
you wish to see this, consult your Driver in
Almaty as driving there is 8000 tenge.
For
outdoors lovers, there are caves to spelunk,
mountain trails to hike, and trout streams to
fish. This must be planned in advance, so
mention it to us if you want to take advantage of
some of these activities.
Zoom
shopping mall on the 3rd floor,
there is a great choice of souvenirs more
than in Karaganda. If youre really
missing PIZZA, go to the Ram Store on the 1st
floor. They have great pizza.
Almaty
Bazaar you can buy a relatively cheap
Persian Lamb coat ($150).
Fantasy
Park outdoor amusement park. Admittance
is 500 Tenge/person.
Bobek
Park free admission but every ride is 100
Tenge. More appropriate for children under
age 8.
Restaurants Available In/Around
Almaty:
If
youre missing American fare, go to Soho.
Meals are about 1,000 Tenge/person, drinks not
included.
There
is a very nice restaurant set in the mountains
Almarason. They offer a
variety of cuisine, from Russian Georgian to
Swiss to National Kazakh, and they are set around
a spa, with therapeutic massage and swimming.
Prices for meals start at $10/person.
Just
a few minutes from the Almarason restaurant,
there is a shish kabob restaurant,
kind of rustic, wooden tables near a cascading
mountain river. Karaoke is available, but
you must sign a pledge that you wont reveal
youre a Williams family ;-)
unless you can really sing!!
Zharyuk
(Promised Land) National Museum
Restaurant downtown Almaty. Serves
all types of Kazakh, European, and Thai food.
8-10 pm floor show of Kazakh traditional dances,
belly dancing, traditional singing and playing of
traditional instruments. Reservations
required. President Gorbachev has eaten
here. Meals start at $10.
Finally,
please keep in mind as you spend your time in Kazakhstan,
that youre not in Kansas anymore.
Everything
will seem different and maybe frightening. You
will be caught up in alternating between periods
of boredom and frantic rushing to complete your
adoption. During your downtime, you can
make good use of the services of your university
student, to see the world from which your child
has come.
During
the times of frantic rushing, our best advice is
to go with the flow. |